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Kentucky State historical marker (#1382)

OLD JOE CLARK is the ubiquitous, quintessential old-time fiddle tune, possessing the same venerable status as a handful of others, albeit most often played as a 'learning piece' or introduction to the genre. Samuel Bayard (1981) thinks it was originally a song tune that later (or in parallel) became a fiddle standard and play-party tune. Alan Jabbour states he has not found any 19th century examples of the tune in printed collections, nor is it mentioned by name in any 19th century texts, and he believes it is no older than the late 19th century or the early 20th century. The earliest reference appears to be in the Journal of American Folklore, XXV, 152, where it is noted that "Old Joe Clark" was "sung by East Tennessee whites, 1905." Mike Seeger (1983) relates the local story of the origins of the tune where he lives in Rockbridge County, Va.:

Joe Clark's father settled around Irish Creek, near South River, in the early 1800's. Joe Clark had a daughter, and a jilted beau is said to have written the song, out of jealousy, in the late 1800's. The Clarks have been family-style string musicians right down through the years.

Another investigation determined the source of the tune to be the murder in Maryland of a traveling salesman named Herbert Brown by Joe Clark and Brown's wife Betsy sometime after the Civil War. Joe and Betsy attempted to cover up the crime by asserting that Brown was on a trip up North. This perhaps explains the verse:

Old Joe Clark killed a man
Layed him in the sand.

...and the chorus, many versions of which include "goodbye Betsy Brown."

Yet another, more substantial, claim is that the song is named for Joe Clark of Clay County, Kentucky, born in 1839. During the Civil War Clark enlisted in the Union Army and served for about six months before receiving a disability discharge in 1862, after which he farmed. Later he ran a general store and had a state-licensed moonshine still. Clark, however, was a womanizer, and this probably led to his murder in 1886, when he was shot and killed near the back porch of his store[1]. There is a Kentucky State historical marker (#1382 - see picture above), in front of the U.S. Post Office at Sexton's Creek, near where Joe is buried, that reads:

Mountain ballad, about 90 stanzas sung during World War I and later wars by soldiers from eastern Kentucky. Early version as sung in Virginia, printed in 1918. Joe Clark born 1839, lived here; a shiftless and rough mountaineer of that day. His enemies were legion; he was murdered in 1885. In the moonshining days of the 1870s he ran a government supervised still.

The tune was recorded for the Library of Congress by musicologist/folklorist Vance Randolph from Ozarks Mountains fiddlers in the early 1940's. Virginia family band "Fiddlin'" Cowan Powers and Family's recording of the piece was the third best-selling country music record of 1924, while the Skillet Lickers (north Georgia) 1926 recording was the fourth best-selling for that year. "Old Joe Clark" was recorded in 1934 by Louisiana fiddler Wayne Perry, a "lovely and unusual setting" says Kerry Blech. Blech notes that another Louisiana fiddler, Horace Foreman, recorded the tune around the same time. He states: "From his photo Perry looks to be in his late 20's or early 30's, while Foreman had been born in 1849, yet their versions are extraordinarily similar," pointing out the strength of regionalism in isolated areas with regard to traditional music. These and similar ditties were collected with the tune:

I has to ride the leadin' mule,
A switch in my right hand;
Gwine to ride with Old Joe Clark,
To a foreign land.

Going around with Old Joe Clark,
Going around I'm gone;
Going around with Old Joe Clark,
Good-bye Lucy Long. ... (Thede)

I don't like Old Joe Clark,
I'll tell you the reason why;
He caught his foot in a panel of my fence
And tore out all my rye.
... (Bayard)

Many old-time fiddlers (such as West Virginia's Edden Hammons and North Carolina fiddler Marion Reece) play the piece in cross-tuning, AEae, although some, like African-American fiddler Joe Thompson, play it in GDgd.

Additional notes
Source for notated version : - Emmet Newman (Delaware County, Oklahoma) [Thede], Wiley Jobes (Greene County, Pa., and northern W.Va., 1930's) and Walter Ireland (Greene County, Pa., 1944) [Bayard]; Judy Hyman (Ithaca, N.Y.) [Phillips].

Printed sources : - Bayard (Dance to the Fiddle), 1981; No. 161A-B, pp. 98–99. Brody (Fiddler's Fakebook), 1983; p. 207. Cazden (Dances from Woodland), 1945; p. 20. Ford (Traditional Music in America), 1940; p. 121. "Mike Seeger: Traditional Music," Frets, July 1983, p. 55. Krassen (Appalachian Fiddle), 1973; p. 16. Lowinger (Bluegrass Fiddle), 1974; p. 12. Phillips (Fiddle Case Tunebook: Old Time Southern), 1989; pp. 30–31. Phillips (Traditional American Fiddle Tunes, vol. 1), 1994; p. 172 (two versions). Reiner (Anthology of Fiddle Styles), 1979; p. 38. Ruth (Pioneer Western Folk Tunes), 1948; No. 99, p. 35. Thede (The Fiddle Book), 1967; pp. 28-29.

Recorded sources : - AFS 20-21, Wayne Crowley (Louisiana, 1934. A field recording by Alan Lomax). AFS 23, Horace Forman (Louisiana, 1934. A field recording by Alan Lomax. Mr. Forman was elderly, having been born in the mid-19th century). Briar 4202, The Kentucky Colonels – "Living in the Past." Brunswick 313 (78 RPM), Lonnie Austin (1929). County 524, "Da Costa Woltz's Southern Broadcasters, 1927 Recordings." County 723, Cockerham, Jarrell and Jenkins – "Back Home in the Blue Ridge." County CO-CD-2729, Art Stamper – "Goodbye Girls I'm Going to Boston" (2000). Document 8039, "The Hill Billies/Al Hopkins and His Buckle Busters: Complete Recorded Works in Chronological Order, vol. 1" (reissue). Folkways FA 2337, Clark Kessinger – "Live at Union Grove." Folkways FA 2395, New Lost City Ramblers – "vol. 5." Front Hall 01, Fennigs All Stars – "The Hammered Dulcimer." Heritage 080, Enoch Rutherford – "Old Cap'n Rabbit." Library of Congress AFS 00841 A01, Marion Rees [sic] (1936). Marimac 9038, Dan Gellert & Brad Leftwich – "A Moment in Time." MCA 88, Bill Monroe – "Bluegrass Ramble." Poppy PP-LA210-G 0698, Doc Watson – "Two Days in November." Rounder 18964-1518-2, Various Artists (Wayne Perry) – "American Fiddle Tunes" (a reissue of the 1971 Library of Congress LP of field recordings). Rounder CD1518, Various Performers – "American Fiddle Tunes" (1971). Victor 19434 (78 RPM), Fiddlin' Cowan Powers (Russell County, S.W. Va.), also recorded by him for Edison in 1925. Edden Hammons Collection II, Disc 1.

See also listing at :
Hear Marion Reese's 1936 Library of Congress recording at Slippery Hill [1]
Hear Henry Reed's 1966 field recording at the Library of Congress [2]

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  1. According to descendent Lisa Clark [3], J.B. Weaver was told by Joe Clark's son that Joe had been living with a woman named Chris Leger. When they split up Joe took up with another woman and lived in his store, renting his house to Chris and her new friend, the brother of Old Jim Howard. Leger and Howard devised a plan to kill Joe Clark and she would claim he left the farm to her. Howard then shot and killed Joe on April 22, 1886, near the back porch of the store, fleeing afterward to Beattyville. His escape was short-lived, however, for Howard himself was stabbed to death a few days later by two men from Clay County, whilst crossing a bridge.